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07 December 2007
Warmongers are getting fearful over Kosovo
A somewhat hysterical piece in the Guardian from Timothy Garton Ash, who when he is not shilling for war is actually an Oxford professor. The line is that the Serbs "know" that Kosovo is lost and all it needs is for Serbia and Kosovo to be admitted to the European Union for everything to be sweet, light and post-modern.

A more likely outcome is for the Serbian army to get the green light from Moscow and then we shall see the Serbian flag snapping proudly in the breeze over every part of Kosovo. The warmongers will howl, they will rage and the rest of us will just ignore them.

Globalisation began its advance in Kosovo in 1999. Let us all hope that 2008 marks its final demise. There can be nowhere more fitting for that final death knell than Kosovo, where it all began.

Cheers: Neil Clark

Hurrah for the gallant Serbs! I can't wait to see that little shit Bush stand impotent as Russian "specialists" flood into Serbia and sit around airfields, government buildings etc waiting for NATO to dare to bomb the Serbs.Just the opportunity for the Russians to reassert their European place in diplomacy.

7 December 2007 at 21:30  

Just a tad illogical that this posting should be entitled "Warmongers are getting fearful over Kosovo". Surely on this issue it's those who are egging the Rapist Nation on to fight for its "sovereign territory" who are the warmongers. Sounds like "shilling for war" to me. But then war against anyone seen to be representing the West isn't war, is it?

7 December 2007 at 23:20  

What's warmongering about sending Serbian forces from one part of Serbia to another? Kosovo is in integral part of Serbia, as the agreement which ended the 1999 aggression against her made clear.

Now that both Afghanistan and Iraq have gone tits up for capitalist expansionism, all they have left to save face is Kosovo. It has to be denied to them to complete their discrediting.

The enemy is at home. And revenge is a dish best eaten cold, after having congealed for some decades.

8 December 2007 at 01:05  

It's war if someone sends soldiers into an area where they're not wanted and people then decide to resist them by force. That is what a war is. It might be a civil war, but it's still a war.

Yes, I know where you're coming from, and I'm not countering that argument for now - I even partly agree with it. But if the Serbian army marches into Kosovo it will trigger a war, and those who hope it will are surely just as much "warmongers" as people like Mr Kamm and I who advocate war in other circumstances.

After all, neither you nor I are pacifists, and we surely believe that war is occasionally justified. One war might be more justified than another. But they're both wars.

For me Kosovo is an Iran/Iraq type situation - pity they can't both lose. Ethnic cleansers and rapists versus women-traffickers - not much of a choice. I'm quite happy with sex, but prefer it consensual.

8 December 2007 at 01:29  

Any guarantee there will not be another genocide similar to Srebrenica? or collateral damage is acceptable as long as it's not committed by the US or UK?
How many deaths required for a killer to be named what he is a "killer"?

8 December 2007 at 21:51  

About 8,000 seem to have been killed at Srebrenica. Brutal though it was, it does not meet the legal definition of genocide. Unless of course you are some pathetic little member of the 101st Fighting Keyboarders, facing defeat.

8 December 2007 at 22:12  

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8 December 2007 at 22:56  

1. In 2001 , the ICTY ( International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia) has found that GENOCIDE had been committed.

2, This was upheld by ICTY in another case in 2004

3. The international Court of Justice Said Serbia has failed to punish those who committed GENOCIDE in Serbrinicia.

Please Exile, tell the highest court on planet earth it's not a Genocide, but merely 8000 people killed.


I'm here because of the link from Neil Clark, you have no reason to be so aggressive and judgmental towards those who don't agree with you.

Neil Clark; Look at your mates pathetic answer, and consider your readers safety next time you link to his blog.

8 December 2007 at 23:00  

The point of course is that genocide isn't genocide when committed by someone with whom the speaker happens to agree.

This argument is all about what outcome would give the biggest grief to the govwernments of the UK and US, not about what the hell happens to people in the Balkans.

9 December 2007 at 00:12  

Oh 8,000 were killed at Srbrencia now . What happened to the 7,000 figure ( which is , of course a gross inflation too)Where do you get this figure from, you nutter? Don't know do you? PATHETIC!

9 December 2007 at 00:45  

The webmongs seem to be paying me a visit tonight, including one spaz who seems to think that he is in danger by writing here. Pal, trust me when I say that what drops out the crack in my arse after a good meal is more important than you and your thoughts.

Not that I will delete anything. I'll just use you as an arsewipe.

9 December 2007 at 04:32  

Yes, Cipriano, because my days of ragged trousered philanthropy are well and truly over. The only point I would clarify is that it is not the government, per se, but the system that I am doing my little bit to help discredit.

9 December 2007 at 04:36  

Actually Cipriano Its not Genocide when you send the Women and Children ahead to a safe Haven, the who is doing doesn't mean a god damn thing.

If I kill 8000 Men and leave all the women and children behind I am not commiting Genocide because hey did you know those women and children can reproduce? Oh Yeah Go figure they can reproduce so that means their civilization will continue SO what have we learned from this insightful little post.

A Slaughter is only a Genocide when you kill everyone, if you're letting people Go then its NOT Genocide.

You can spout Hague Trials all day long but the reality is that in Srebrenica they Slaughtered a whole lot of Muslim Men (let the women and children go FREE) in order to return the favor to them for killing people in all the Serb Villages surrounding Srebrenica and then hiding like a bunch of cowards in a UN safe Zone.

You know what that is, thats like you Beating me up and Running to a Police Officer every time I collect myself and go after you for it, you can get away with it a few times but eventually I will catch you before you hide behind that Bobby... Hell in the Srebrenica Case its like saying Fuck it and grinding you into the Earth while The Bobby watches in Disbelief.

Now if the Bobby sees me Grinding you into the Earth without seeing all those times where you beat me up and Got away I will look awfully Guilty won't I? So don't be a Dumbass Cip you don't have a fucken clue, you can't try that Black and White, Right and Wrong Bullshit in the Balkans that place is Grayer than a Storm cloud.

9 December 2007 at 06:53  

You are wasting your time, Anonymous. These people have to believe in heroes, otherwise they would have to face up to the awful reality which is that they supported wars of aggression that only aimed at making the world a better place for capitalism.

9 December 2007 at 07:16  

Hey Exile, no worries I have a better one in your post above this one...

"Will Serbs Fight Alone?"

I am very fond of anologies the one above is long but good.

9 December 2007 at 07:21  

You have nothing whatsoever to respond with, after I came with court quotation describing it as GENOCIDE.
No wonder you used your arse hole to answer. This is what you are.


Your Exile friend used the 8000 figure. you better agree how many of your kills known to the world before you spout at us.

Neil Clark;
Thanks for this trap, I've spared your friend the bad language for your sake. although I've been exposed to his high morals because of your link.

9 December 2007 at 09:58  

Shut your Dumbass Mouth Computaa you can't call something Genocide without knowing what the Word means. You expose yourself as a Mentally Challenged personage. Go look up the word Fool.

"Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."

-Abraham Lincoln

9 December 2007 at 18:46  

The international court said it’s GENOCIDE. Such Judgement became part of the International LAW…

If this fact can’t get into your heads, you better shove in uncomfortable place.

9 December 2007 at 20:56  

Actually Computaa that same "law" exonerated Serbia of that "genocide"

So whatever you want to call the Debacle in Srebrenica Serbia's only crime was not being omniscient. According to your Hague that is.

10 December 2007 at 04:38  

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