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23 November 2007
Serbia refuses to yield Kosovo
The Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica has announced that Serbia rejects all the offers and threats that the western powers have made to her recently to surrender her southern province. He went on to state that if Serbia agreed to these demands, it would be the first time that a European country had been so dismembered since the treatment was meted out to Czechoslovakia at the Munich Agreement of 1938.

If the translation of Prime Minister Kostunica's words is accurate, then there is only one conclusion that can be drawn:

Serbia will fight for Kosovo.

Serbia is not alone NOW, thanks to Car Putin and Russia (new beacon of FREEDOM and LIBERTY) who recognized true goal of the new Evil Empire is conquest and enslavement of the FREEDOM loving people everywhere.

Quisling President Tadic promised Kosovo and Metohia to the new Evil Empire and Albanians.

23 November 2007 at 10:51  

But who will Serbia have to fight for it, that's the question? Not, I imagine, simply whatever army Kosovo itself can cobble together. Life and politics just aren't that straightforward.

23 November 2007 at 14:32  

In that case, Serbia won't have to. No one is going to risk World War Three by recognising Kosovo. Are they?

23 November 2007 at 17:02  

Who gives a tuppenny bugger? No-one in that part of the world has covered themselves wih glory in recent years. Maybe the government of Serbia will fight for Kosovo, and maybe someone claiming to represent the Kosovars will fight for independence. We'll see. Silly arses on all sides. The sovereign state has been one of the worst ideas we've had, so who gives a toss for its territorial integrity?

Mr. Lindsay: if Kosovo achieves de facto independence others will recognise it. If not, not. There are no rights or wrongs in this case (except for a large number of individual ones. of course...) Either way it won't start World War III. We've all got better things to do.

23 November 2007 at 23:51  

On one level I agree entirely, one another I don't.

Think of the resources that any decent labour government could have spent on repairing the damage that the Tories caused to our life. Then think about pissing it all away on these doomed adventures.

Then think about Kosovo back under Belgrade's control, the British finally leaving Iraq and the end of the Afghan lunacy.

Think about the finger pointing and the discrediting.

Does it make sense now?

24 November 2007 at 00:31  

Actually it doesn't, although you're making a perfectly reasonable point.

Yes, you're right that a lot of the money we spent on war could have been better spent.

But what is one supposed to think about Kosovo back under Belgrade's control? If that would help anyone I'd be fine with it. But I'm not convinced it will. I know Belgrade a bit and it's not a great place. A 22-year old friend of my sons died there recently.

Yes, I'd like to see our guys out of Iraq, once Iraq has been stabilised. And this is happening, though not entirely in ways we would wish. OK, so be it.

And the Afghan lunacy? There's all sorts of lunacies in Afghanistan. I reckon the place will be a lot better off if we slot a few thousand more Taliban before we bugger off.

Finger pointing and discrediting are entirely immaterial to me. You get those all the time anyway.

I respect your line for being unsentimental. I'm pretty unsentimental too.

24 November 2007 at 02:11  

Cipriano, you don't sound "unsentimental", merely cynical and biased. But that's oh-so-British: you strive to recolonize the rest of the world, make a royal mess and pigsty everywhere, and then pretend it just doesn't matter one way or the other.

13th century Pec Patriarchate in the midst of Kosovo province is to Serbs what Westminster Abby is to Brits. Call us sentimental, but we have a BIG problem with illegal Muslim immigrants from Albania holding it under siege, partly thanks to the dishonorable role the Brits keep playing in the Balkans.

I have no idea what a reference to your sons' 22 year old friend dying in Belgrade has to do with any of this. I was born and raised in Belgrade and have lived there all my life. With all due respect to your sons, I think it's safe to say I know the city and the people a tad better and it is (still) one of the safest multi-ethnic, multi-religious towns in Europe. Your comment makes it seem as if it's some kind of wild frontier - it couldn't be further from the truth, and it just shows how little do you know.

If you don't care about the destiny of southern Serbian province and think no one in you corner of the world should, do us all a favor and get your 'boys' the hell out of our country, so we can deal with our own affairs without your meddling. You've exceeded your welcome long time ago - Go home!

24 November 2007 at 09:25  

Humanity rejects and will defend itself against anglo-saxon SAVAGES and TERRORISTS, INMHO.

Evil Empires have always found quislings, enslaving people was and will FOREVER remain impossible.

Have a great day!

24 November 2007 at 10:14  

Svetlana - sorry to upset you, but my comment wasn't biased at all - merely indifferent as to whether Serbs or Albanians rule Kosovo. I don't meddle in anyone's affairs - and my sons aren't in your country, they merely have friends there, one of whom has died in murky circumstances. But if you - and this applies to "uncivilised" too - declare yourselves our enemies, then don't expect a lot of friendship from us. Yes, you'll deal with your own affairs - but don't expect any help from us, at the UN or anywhere else, if the Albanians throw you out of Kosovo.

25 November 2007 at 01:22  

Well the Albanians aren't going to do any such thing, are they? Partly because these postings are predicated on the notion that Russia will back Serbia, but also because there are rumours of negotiations between Serbia and Albania to divide the turf between them.

25 November 2007 at 01:50  

Oh, that's funny, Cipriano, you certainly have a talent to turn everything on its ear!

So, it's the Serbs treating the fair Britons as enemies now?! And it's us who should be wary and cease to hope for any "help" from you, or expect more of your "friendship"?

You know, when I say that you clearly don't know much about any of this, I'm not saying that to offend you, I'm only stating the obvious.

Official Britain deceived and betrayed Serbian friendship so many times by now (starting with betraying their WWII allies - Serbs under the leadership of General Draza Mihailovic), that I really don't think we could talk about any "friendship" from your end by the time of the carpet bombardment of Serbia for 78 days in 1999.

Even though Serbs have never in their entire history done anything to harm the Britons (save for your sons' friend... and that's "murky" enough too), they were always treated more like an enemy than an ally they actually were. Just read your mass media to see what a dignifying treatment your WWI and WWII ally has been receiving from Britain for the past 50 years. If that's how Britain defines friendship, I'd rather that they come out in the open and call themselves what they really are - Serbian enemy.

No, Cipriano, I think it's fair to say that Serbs have had enough of that kind of "friendship" by the 2007. Save for the few honorable individuals and British working class, we know we can't count on Britons at all.

What kind of friendship and help could one expect from someone like you, when you claim it makes no difference to you if Serbia gets dismembered or not, and when the unfortunate death of your sons' friend in my hometown, in "murky" circumstances, has the power of turning you against the entire country and all its people, while you claim you're merely "unsentimental"? Am I to be afraid that you won't help us now, after I was direct with you?

That's the hight of arrogance.

When I said "go home!" I meant British troops that are part of the occupying forces in southern Serbian province of Kosovo. That's our home, heart of our country, and it can never be Albanian or British or American. Follow the events and see if I'm lying.

The UN, thankfully, is not owned by the Brits or the few wealthy Western Empires - it's a much more inclusive club. My country was one of its founders and it is a full member, with the same rights and obligations as yours. That's where we are equal, however painful that must sound.

Condescending remarks only show your prejudice and bias. Serbs are not asking anyone for help, we're just trying to tell everyone to get out of our way already - I thought at least that's clear enough.

If Albanians were ever able to stand in one place for long enough to face the Serbian army without throwing their guns and running away with their pants off, they never would've hired NATO to fight their dirty war. KLA was defeated on the ground by the Serbs already, when the remote-control "warriors" showed up in our skies.

Just get out of our way, and we'll straighten the mess you've created. That's all.

25 November 2007 at 05:50  

"But if you - and this applies to "uncivilised" too - declare yourselves our enemies, then don't expect a lot of friendship from us."

History doesn't lie.
Anglo-Saxon savages have declared anybody their enemy who defies and resists their grandiose goals of ruling this planet and its inhabitants.

I hope that humanity will resist you to the end.
Hitler didn't last forever, neither will you INMHO.

26 November 2007 at 11:15  

Memento mori -

uncivilised - you are of course quite correct in saying that I will not last forever, especially as I am overweight and drink too much.

But while I'm still alive, I will fight against people who think they own bits of territory and everyone living on them and can do with those people exactly as they like.

Land belongs to the people who live on it, not to some bloody government.

We don't have the right to rule anyone and don't want it. But we fought Hitler (and, for a time in 1940, fought him alone) because we don't like oppressors or dictators, don't respect their "rights", and never will.

I'm not proud of everything Britain has done, but I'm proud of that.

Also, if you think Poisoner Putin is a beacon of freedom and liberty, you must be barmy.

26 November 2007 at 23:54  

Cipriano is Right, we should Liberate Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland!

27 November 2007 at 01:12  

anonymous -

And Wolverhampton.

27 November 2007 at 01:34  

The whole fucking midlands, please.

27 November 2007 at 04:08  

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